Predestination, The Elect, Chosen
Are there some people who can't get saved no matter how much they seek GOD? Did GOD create the majority of mankind as worthless trash? Does GOD hate the majority of his creation? Does GOD love only some people?
The most insane teaching I have ever heard! Yet lots of people believe this blasphemous demonic crap!
UPDATE about sermon today against "Unconditional Election":
I can't believe how many people actually believe that GOD pre-programmed the majority of the world to disobey Him and then will punish them for doing exactly what they were programmed to do! It's insane! I learned after the sermon that these demonic people also believe that GOD doesn't change people!!!! They don't believe in being "Born Again"!!!! They even refuse to call it 'being born again' and instead call it "Regeneration'. They actually change the name so that it's not as clear to some people what they teach. But they actually teach that you don't have to be born again and can't be born again and that GOD doesn't change people upon repentance, because everyone is programmed like a robot to either obey GOD or to disobey GOD, yet by obeying GOD in their own disobedience, they are obeying GOD to disobey Him!!!! Crazy!!!!!
Jan. 23, 2021 (10th day of 11th month)
(The following is just brief notes on the sermon. Please listen to the entire sermon for full edification.)
There is an extremely evil false doctrine called: "Unconditional Election". It is the belief that before the beginning of the world, GOD chose who can and who cannot inherit the Kingdom of GOD.
It is a false doctrine of Calvinism. It denies Free Will. It denies that we have anything to do with our salvation.
John 15 People actually in the tree of Life, but fall away against GOD's Will.
This is a warning that you can actually get saved and yet then lose your salvation. If GOD planned and chose who would get saved and who wouldn't be saved, and we had no choice in it, no free will, then John 15 wouldn't be needed. John 15 and most of the bible would not be needed. Warnings would not be needed. Evangelism would not be needed. The bible would not be needed. Growing in truth would not be needed. The cross of Jesus would not be needed. Nothing would be needed because we would be mindless, programmed robots that could do nothing to attain, or reject, salvation.
John 15:16 Used to try to prove unconditional election:
"Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you..."
-This only refers to GOD having created us. Not we created Him. So of course GOD chose us first. He loved us first.
The context of the chapter, of saved people falling away from The Tree of Life PROVES that this verse absolutely cannot mean that we have unconditional election without free will. You can't just read one verse. Read the entire chapter!
Heb. 10:26-34 The same principal of John 15. Why warn of being saved and then lose it, if we can't do anything to attain or reject?
2 Peter 3:8-9 Not willing for ANYONE to perish, but for ALL to come to everlasting life!
This verse totally proves that the doctrine that says that "there's no free will" is a lie! People who believe in unconditional election totally ignore this verse!
If HE wants EVERYONE to get saved, then He never planned or wanted anyone to die in The Lake of Fire!
Why would the LOVING GOD plan on aborting his babies! Why would He create it just only to destroy it on purpose?!
1 Tim. 4:10 Saviour of all mankind especially believers.
1 Tim. 2:4 Wants everyone to be saved & know truth!
Acts 10:34 GOD is NOT a respecter of persons, when it comes to salvation!
Philippians 2:12 Work out our salvation with fear and trembling.Matt. 22:1-14 Everyone invited to the marriage supper. Not just the chosen. Everyone called. Many called. The few chosen are those who pass all of the tests and achieve success of being complete in Christ. The Elect are those who GOD foresaw achieving that success. GOD didn't pick who would be the only ones who would inherit the Kingdom. But rather only foresaw who would.
He also chose who would enter within the 1st Resurrection, and who would be in the 2nd resurrection.
Deut. 30:15-20 Choose either path.
:17 people turn away.
The many scriptures that prove that "Once Saved, Always Saved" is a false doctrine, also prove that there is "Free Will". = That it is up to us to decide whether we accept eternal life via the truth, or to reject the truth that gives eternal life.
:19 Choose life or death.
Joshua 24:15 CHOOSE who you will serve.
If we didn't have a choice, we would be mindless robots and we wouldn't be worthy of our calling.
Ps. 69:28 (Exo. 32:33) Blot out (erase) their names from The Book of Life. Their names were written there. But could be erased!
So GOD did not put it into concrete/cement who would be saved & who wouldn't be.
It's up to all of us to choose life or death!
Verses used by those who believe in Unconditional Election: (Quotations are from the KJV):
Isaiah 42:1: "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect Chosen One..."
-This refers primarily to Jesus as the offspring of Jacob/Israel.
Even if referring to Jacob, we still must understand what it means to be "elect" and "chosen". We can't assume that it means to not have any free will.
-Verse 8 says that Jesus is not a separate/different being/person or god head. He's GOD in the flesh, not a separate distinct god.
John 1:12,13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
-Of course we are born by the choice of GOD. He predetermined who would be born and where. But that has nothing to do with whether or not we get saved.
-2 words with these verses, "received" and "believe" who our involvement in salvation. He calls everyone. But we choose to receive Him and we choose to believe. The bible is full of verses calling for people to receive and believe, which shows that we must choose to believe and receive. Even "repent and be baptized". We can choose to not believe and not receive. That's very clear in scripture.
Acts 13:48: "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained/appointed to eternal life believed."
-Again, we could believe or not believe. These people chose to believe. It shows our involvement in our salvation. The "unconditional election" people focus only upon the word "ordained" while ignoring the obvious involvement of the believer!
We can't allow this verse to overrule all other verses that declare the requirements of repentance, belief, acceptance, growth in maturity, grown in truth, obedience and the requirement to produce good fruit. We must take this one verse into context with the entire bible. Even as we can't allow John 3:16 to dominate over all other bible verses but rather to take John 3:16 in the context of the entire bible, weighing each verse with many verses.
Romans 9:15-16: "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shows mercy."
-Mercy and salvation is not always the same thing. The wicked dying in The Lake of Fire is a form of mercy, but not salvation.
Romans 9:22-24: "What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to (prepared for) destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"
-Fitted to, or prepared for, isn't the same as created for destruction. No one was created for destruction, as 2 Peter 3:8-9 tells us that GOD is not willing for anyone to perish. So Romans 9:22-24 cannot contradict 2 Peter 3:8-9. When the bible is understood correctly, it doesn't contradict.
We have many verses that prove that we can accept or reject or throw away or lose salvation.
Ephesians 1:4-5: "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,"
:11 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who work all things after the counsel of his own will:"
-Predestinated would be better translated as "pre-surveyed" or "pre-seen" or "seen beforehand", which means that GOD saw the end from the beginning, saw our hearts/minds and our choices. Therefore He had already chosen us in the beginning because He saw the end result. It's like if a sports team leader has already seen what a person can do before being chosen for the team. If a baseball agent knows of a good baseball player and sees how good of a player that he is, and then chooses him. But GOD saw from the beginning, before it happened! GOD exists in all time dimensions, both past and present, from beginning to end, He is ever present in every generation and He is NOT limited by time and space.
"The Elect" and "The Chosen" are all humans, of all generations, who GOD already saw (before Adam & Eve were created) passing all of the tests and accepting Him and achieving full maturity and full completeness of salvation.
Acts 17:26 (KJV) says "And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".
-HE planned ahead of time where we would be born, who our parents would be, who we would meet, etc. But HE did NOT set into concrete what we would choose. He gave every person and every creature free will to choose his way or the wrong way & life or death.
-For example, Judas who betrayed Jesus. Jesus saw before the foundation of the world that Judas would on his own accord choose to have the lust of money and a heart of betrayal. Therefore Jesus ordained that Judas would be the one who betrayed Him. Jesus put Judas in the right time and place for it to occur. But Judas made his own decision to betray Jesus. He did not have to do it.
-GOD places us in times & places to present to us choices that we must make. We make those choices. We can accept His gentle voice of the best path and good rivers, Isa. 8:6-7. OR we can choose the strong, harsh raging floods of war, destruction, Islam, homosexuality, pre-trib rapture lie, witchcraft, unbelief, etc.
Whatever we choose, He will try to lead us away from the danger at first. But after we have proven ourselves self-determined to disobey Him and to follow our OWN path, He eventually turns us over to what we have freely chosen and let's us have what we want and all of the deadly consequences that come with our bad choices.
And that's the state of the world today. GOD didn't bring about all of the death and destruction and misery on this Earth. WE did. Mankind brought it all about via our pride, vanity and rejection of His righteous leadership.
2 Thessalonians 2:13: "But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
-Verse shows our involvement in accepting Him. Sanctification is a very long and difficult process that requires our cooperation!
2 Timothy 1:9: "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,"
-"Works" and belief/acceptance are not the same thing. We earn rewards through works. We don't earn salvation through works. We can do many things, pay tithes, keep the Sabbaths, and still not be saved. So those things don't save us. Only The Blood of Jesus and The Holy Ghost saves us. And that is through His Grace. That's what this verse is saying. As Isaiah 1 tells us, that even those who sacrifice animals and keep the Sabbaths don't have guarantee that they will have eternal life, because HE also sees our hearts and minds. He knows whether or not that we have love for people. He knows whether or not we trust Him and Love Him. He knows whether or not we oppress the poor and needy. He knows if we have a problem with pride. So we can do many good works and still not be saved. He calls everyone at some point in history. But not everyone will be chosen because some will never press their spiritual garments. Their hearts will always be hard and wicked by their own choice.
No one will suffer and perish in The Lake of Fire except for those people who DESERVE IT! Not just because they were born! Not just because GOD never loved them! NOT because GOD created them as trash!
The "unconditional election" doctrine declares that GOD created some people as trash who is NOT loved by GOD and can NEVER attain salvation no matter what they do! It's a doctrine of Satan!
The bible is extremely clear that all mankind have opportunity for salvation! We are ALL Loved by GOD and are His creation!
Does He not beg for ALL mankind everywhere to repent?!
John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
-John 12:32 draws all mankind to Himself!
GOD created everyone. GOD loves everyone!
TO say that He only wants you saved, but not everyone, is a very prideful, wicked and foolish way of thinking!!!
Full audio for this sermon:
Previous teachings on this subject:
Sermon: 2016-09-03 Predestined To Salvation Or Hell
3 hr, 6 min.
Sermon: 2016-08-27 GOD Turns People Over To Chosen Sins: Free Will
2 hours 9 minutes
New article in process: (Will be edited over the next few days)